administration still have the mandate. >> you're talking higher marginal rate ps p. >> yes. he doesn't believe there are not enough deductions. so many of the ceos that came out of that meeting seemed to be wink winwink, nod nod, says may he's not just talking 35%. deductions plus. >> i thought for sure raising the rate is on the table. that there will be no deal without raising the rate on the wealthy. >> the idea is raising the amount of taxes that wealthy pay and you can get there two different ways. one is by raising the marginal rate, one is raising the effective rate. >> but i don't. >> i've heard that as a way of stopping raising the rate. i don't think there's any discussion -- there will be no deal without eliminating the burke tax cuts on the wealthy. >> i think people are coming around to that view. >> but this is the republican view. >> but i'm saying -- >> if you listened to the president carefully last friday -- >> i'm not ed advocating either friday. >> the president last friday -- this is why i think people read too much into it. he never said 39.6. he never